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Jobs & commute in Olive

At 17.1%, unemployment in Olive is among the highest of any U.S. town

Jobs and income earn Olive C+; getting around on foot earns it B−. Household incomes here are higher than in 86% of U.S. towns. For 31% of workers, the job is at home, next to 15% for New York as a whole.

Census ACS 2020–24, Census LEHD 2023, EPA Smart Location Database. How the two grades are made

What stands out · In brief

The work figures that set Olive apart

A lot of Olive works from home

31% of Olive workers work from home, against 15% across New York. Time on the road ↓

A big share show a job far from home

31% of working residents have a main job more than 50 miles away. Part of that is employers that report every worker at one head office, so not all of those trips happen daily. How far ↓

Written from the Census figures on this page. Commute flows, distances and jobs are Census LEHD 2023, primary jobs only (the self-employed aren’t counted); commute time and working from home are from the Census American Community Survey.

Jobs & income grade

Why Olive gets the Jobs & income grade it does

On income, poverty, unemployment and job access, Olive is better than 36% of U.S. towns, #529 of 758 in New York. Household income holds Olive’s grade up ($114,018, U.S. $80,734); unemployment pulls it down. It also does well on the poverty rate.

Household income $114,018 (±$28,634) · NY $85,974 · U.S. $80,734Higher than 86% of U.S. towns
Poverty 8.0% · NY 14.0% · U.S. 12.5%Lower than 61% of U.S. towns
Unemployment 17.1% (±7.0) · NY 6.4% · U.S. 5.2%Near the bottom of U.S. towns
Job access by car EPA, jobs within a 45-minute driveMore than 14% of U.S. towns
New York towns we grade 758 towns#529 of 758
C−B−

A fairly firm grade. Within the Census margins of error for income, poverty and unemployment, Olive could be anywhere from C− to B−.

How TownRatings grades jobs & income →

★ What stands out · Time on the road

How long Olive spends getting to work: about 30 minutes

A year of commuting
228 hours

Round trip, about 230 workdays a year: roughly 9.5 full days in the car, bus or train.

Average commute minutes, one way

Olive30 min
New York33 min
U.S.26 min
Working from home
31%

of Olive workers work from home, vs 15% across New York. Their commute is the hallway.

About 3 in 10
How Olive gets to work
77%Drive alone
8%Carpool
5%Transit
9%Other

Share of the 1,342 commuters (the 31% who work from home are left out). Across New York: 57% drive alone, 25% take transit; U.S.: 81% and 4%. Census ACS 2020–24.

From the Census survey of workers who don’t work from home.

How far

How far it is to work from Olive

10 mi25 mi50 mi80 miKingston: 14% · 13.9 miNew York City: 12% · 90.4 miWoodstock: 6% · 9.1 miUlster: 5% · 13.5 miSaugerties: 5% · 17.4 miShandaken: 4% · 9.1 miPoughkeepsie: 2% · 26.6 miAlbany: 2% · 55.1 miMiddletown: 2% · 23.7 miKingston 14%New York City 12%Woodstock 6%Ulster 5%Saugerties 5%Olive
OliveTop destinations (size = commuters)
25%Under 10 mi374 residents
37%10–24 mi563 residents
8%25–50 mi119 residents
31%Over 50 mi469 residents

About 31% show a job over 50 miles away. Some of that is real, and some is employers that report every worker at a head office, so a few long commutes are on paper only.

Straight-line distance from each worker’s home block to their main job’s block. LEHD 2023.

Every working resident’s trip, home to work, as the crow flies. Roads add to it, so real drives run longer.

Day and night

In and out of Olive on a workday

On a workday 1,292 residents head out to work, 234 work right here, and 763 people come in from elsewhere.

1,292live here, work elsewhere
234live and work here
763work here, live elsewhere
Night and day
At night4,300
Workday3,700
4,300live here− 1,300head out to work+ 760come in to work= 3,700on a workday

About 3,700 people are in Olive on a workday afternoon, 12% fewer than live here.

Job hub or commuter town?
0.65jobs per workerCommuter townJob hub

0.65 jobs for every working resident, so most people commute out.

Workday population = residents − those who work elsewhere + those who come in (the Census “commuter-adjusted” method). Residents: Census survey; commuters: LEHD 2023, primary jobs.

The commute map

14% of working residents work in Kingston

Kingston: 211 residents work here (14%)Albany: 24 residents work here (2%)New York: 179 residents work here (12%)Middletown: 24 residents work here (2%)Saugerties: 74 residents work here (5%)Ulster: 79 residents work here (5%)Shandaken: 60 residents work here (4%)RochesterOliveMarbletownHurleyDenningPoughkeepsie: 25 residents work here (2%)Woodstock: 84 residents work here (6%)ShokanKingstonNew YorkWoodstockUlsterSaugertiesShandakenOlive
1
Olive (in town)right here
15%234
2
Kingston13.9 mi away
14%211
3
New York City90.4 mi away
12%179
4
Woodstock9.1 mi away
6%84
5
Ulster13.5 mi away
5%79
6
Saugerties17.4 mi away
5%74
7
Shandaken9.1 mi away
4%60
8
Poughkeepsie26.6 mi away
2%25
9
Albany55.1 mi away
2%24
10
Middletown23.7 mi away
2%24
Everywhere elseother towns and states
35%532
The top trips

Where Olive clocks in

Lines run between town centers. The top 10 towns each way; “Everywhere else” is the rest, including other states.

A thicker line means more commuters. Switch between where residents work and where the people who work here live.

The jobs

What the 997 jobs in Olive are

997 jobs are based in Olive.

Jobs based in OliveJobs Olive residents hold

What kind of work

Goods: factories, building, farms16%13%
Trade, transport & utilities18%20%
Services: health, schools, offices66%67%

What it pays

$1,250 a month or less13%16%
$1,251–$3,333 a month26%24%
Over $3,333 a month60%60%

Who does it

29 or younger18%19%
30 to 5451%51%
55 and older31%30%
−3%

Jobs based in Olive, 2013 → 2023: 1,025 → 997. Big swings can come from how a large employer reports its locations, not only from real openings or closings.

Primary jobs covered by unemployment insurance (not the self-employed). Pay is monthly earnings. LEHD 2023.

Here is what they are, next to the jobs Olive’s own residents hold wherever they work.

Getting around · Walkability grade

Driving is how Olive gets around

On EPA’s walkability index and the share of commuters who walk, bike or take transit, Olive is more walkable than 50% of U.S. towns, #508 of 758 in New York. How people get to work scores higher than the street layout: 5.2% of commuters walk, bike or take transit, against 32.9% across New York, on an EPA index of 5.1.

EPA walkability index 5.1 of 20 · typical NY town 6.3 · U.S. 6.9Higher than 22% of U.S. towns
Walk, bike or transit 5.2% of commuters · NY 32.9% · U.S. 7.1%Higher than 77% of U.S. towns
New York towns we grade 758 towns#508 of 758
B−B−

A firm grade. EPA’s index has no published margin of error; the commuting share comes from a Census survey of 1,948 workers.

How TownRatings grades walkability →

Transit service (shown, not graded). 0% of residents live within a ¾-mile walk of a bus or train stop, 0% within a quarter mile. At the weekday evening rush, about under 0.1 trips an hour stop near the typical resident, more than in 20% of the 9,825 U.S. towns with transit data.

Transit at the evening rush trips an hour stopping within ¼ mile of the typical resident, EPA 2020

New York City79.0
Olive0.0

Households without a car (shown, not graded). 3.1% of Olive households have no vehicle (New York 29.2%, U.S. 8.4%). 5% of Olive’s commuters take a bus or train.

Towns its size

Olive next to U.S. towns of 3,000 to 5,800: 2,686th of 4,039 on jobs and income

#TownPeopleHousehold incomePovertyUnemploymentWork in townGrade
1Riverwoods IL3,766$249K0.7%0.7%2%A+
2Mission Hills KS3,522$250K1.2%0.3%2%A+
3Ho-Ho-Kus NJ4,313$250K0.0%1.7%6%A+
…
7Lloyd Harbor NY3,587$250K2.1%0.9%3%A+
…
17Kings Point NY5,710$211K0.9%2.4%3%A+
…
20North Hills NY5,481$173K3.0%1.9%3%A+
…
2,684Spencer NC3,450$65K11.2%7.1%3%C+
2,685Broadway VA4,463$65K13.3%4.1%6%C+
2,686Olive NY4,263$114K8.0%17.1%15%C+
2,687Lake Tansi TN4,437$58K13.9%2.0%4%C+
2,688Jackson MN3,305$70K11.8%4.0%44%C+
…
4,039Lake Isabella CA4,059$27K40.7%8.6%18%D−

Census ACS 2020–24 (income, poverty, unemployment), Census LEHD (work in town), TownRatings Jobs & income grades. Each town links to its Work & commute page.

Ranked on the Jobs & income grade: the towns either side of Olive, the top three, the last and three more from New York.

Next door

Olive and its neighbors: 10% work next door

The biggest share goes to Woodstock (6%).

Jobs & commute next door

TownOlive workers thereJobs & incomeWalkabilityCommuteHousehold income
Olive–C+B−30 min$114,018
Shandaken4%C−B−31 min$66,031
Woodstock6%C+B+27 min$92,118
Marbletownunder 2%B−B35 min$114,330
Hurleyunder 2%B+B−23 min$101,099
Denningunder 2%——36 min—
Rochesterunder 2%C+B36 min$86,691

Same-state neighbors only. Denning: fewer than 1,000 residents, not graded. Commute: average minutes each way, Census ACS 2020–24.

Darker towns draw more of Olive’s workers. Tap a town to see its commute.

How to read these numbers

What this data can and can’t tell you

  • Two sources, two years. Trips, distances and jobs based here: Census LEHD 2023, primary jobs, where the employer reports them. Income, poverty, unemployment, commute time and how people travel: Census ACS 2020–24 averages.
  • Straight lines, older transit. Miles are as the crow flies. EPA’s walkability and transit files use 2017–20 inputs.

How these figures and grades are made →

Jobs and commuting in Olive: questions

What is the median household income in Olive?

$114,018 (±$28,634) (Census ACS 2020–24), against $85,974 across New York and $80,734 nationally.

What is the poverty rate in Olive?

8.0%, against 14.0% across New York and 12.5% nationally (Census ACS 2020–24).

How long is the commute from Olive?

30 minutes each way on average, against 33 across New York and 26 nationally. 31% of workers work from home.

Where do people who live in Olive work?

15% work in town. The top destinations elsewhere are Kingston (14%, 14 mi), New York City (12%, 90 mi), Woodstock (6%, 9 mi) (Census LEHD 2023).

Is Olive walkable?

Olive is more walkable than 50% of U.S. towns (Walkability B−): an EPA walkability index of 5.1 out of 20, and 5% of commuters walk, bike or take transit.

Can you get around Olive without a car?

5% of commuters take transit and 3% of households have no car. 0% of residents live within a quarter mile of a stop.

Commuter talk

Getting to work from Olive, from the people who make the trip.

Town Square →
Ask neighbors
Beyond the commute

More of Olive

Olive home →

Flows, distances and jobs: U.S. Census Bureau, LEHD Origin-Destination Employment Statistics (LODES 8), 2023, primary jobs. Commute time, working from home and working out of state: U.S. Census Bureau, American Community Survey 5-year estimates. Distances are straight lines between home and work; real drives run longer. Walkability index, job access and transit service: U.S. EPA Smart Location Database. The two grades are our own summaries of these figures, not official ratings.