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Jobs & commute in Philmont

Philmont has lower household incomes than 79% of U.S. towns

Only 2% work in Philmont; the top destination outside it is Hudson (16%, 7 miles). 21.6% of residents are in poverty; New York has 14.0%. The two grades for Philmont are D for jobs and income and C− for walkability.

Census ACS 2020–24, Census LEHD 2023, EPA Smart Location Database. How the two grades are made

What stands out

The work figures that set Philmont apart

Jobs & income grade

Where Philmont’s Jobs & income grade comes from

On income, poverty and job access, Philmont is better than 9% of U.S. towns. All three inputs sit close together, so no single one decides Philmont’s grade.

Household income $56,563 (±$11,079) · NY $85,974 · U.S. $80,734Higher than 21% of U.S. towns
Poverty 21.6% · NY 14.0% · U.S. 12.5%Lower than 12% of U.S. towns
Job access by car EPA, jobs within a 45-minute driveMore than 22% of U.S. towns

Unemployment (7.1%) is left out: Philmont’s labor force is under 1,000, too few workers for a steady figure.

D−B−

A rough placement. Within the Census margins of error for income and poverty, Philmont could be anywhere from D− to B−.

How TownRatings grades jobs & income →

★ What stands out · Time on the road

A commute of about 21 minutes in Philmont

A year of commuting
164 hours

Round trip, about 230 workdays a year: roughly 6.8 full days in the car, bus or train.

Average commute minutes, one way

Philmont21 min
New York33 min
U.S.26 min
Working from home
7%

of Philmont workers work from home, vs 15% across New York. Their commute is the hallway.

About 1 in 10
How Philmont gets to work
89%Drive alone
11%Carpool

Share of the 554 commuters (the 7% who work from home are left out). Across New York: 57% drive alone, 25% take transit; U.S.: 81% and 4%. Census ACS 2020–24.

From the Census survey of workers who don’t work from home.

Day and night

The daily flow of workers through Philmont

On a workday 477 residents head out to work, 11 work right here, and 450 people come in from elsewhere.

477live here, work elsewhere
11live and work here
450work here, live elsewhere
Night and day
At night1,500
Workday1,400
1,500live here− 480head out to work+ 450come in to work= 1,400on a workday

About as many people by day as by night: the people who leave are replaced by the people who come in.

Job hub or commuter town?
0.94jobs per workerCommuter townJob hub

About as many jobs as working residents (0.94 per resident).

Workday population = residents − those who work elsewhere + those who come in (the Census “commuter-adjusted” method). Residents: Census survey; commuters: LEHD 2023, primary jobs.

The commute map

Out of Philmont to work: where people go

PhilmontHudson: 79 residents work here (16%)Albany: 23 residents work here (5%)New York: 56 residents work here (11%)CatskillKinderhook: 10 residents work here (2%)CopakeGhent: 23 residents work here (5%)Hillsdale: 7 residents work here (1%)ChathamClaverack: 58 residents work here (12%)Taghkanic: 11 residents work here (2%)Livingston: 7 residents work here (1%)StockportGreenport: 15 residents work here (3%)HudsonClaverackNew YorkAlbanyGhentGreenportPhilmont
1
Hudson7.1 mi away
16%79
2
Claverack3 mi away
12%58
3
New York City110.6 mi away
11%56
4
Albany29.8 mi away
5%23
5
Ghent4.6 mi away
5%23
6
Greenport7.6 mi away
3%15
7
Taghkanic8.1 mi away
2%11
8
Kinderhook11.3 mi away
2%10
9
Hillsdale6.6 mi away
1%7
10
Livingston10.8 mi away
1%7
Everywhere elseother towns and states
41%199
The top trips

Where Philmont clocks in

Lines run between town centers. The top 10 towns each way; “Everywhere else” is the rest, including other states.

A thicker line means more commuters. Switch between where residents work and where the people who work here live.

The jobs

What the 461 jobs in Philmont are

461 jobs are based in Philmont.

Jobs based in PhilmontJobs Philmont residents hold

What kind of work

Goods: factories, building, farms1%13%
Trade, transport & utilities32%19%
Services: health, schools, offices67%68%

What it pays

$1,250 a month or less13%14%
$1,251–$3,333 a month30%26%
Over $3,333 a month57%61%

Who does it

29 or younger16%20%
30 to 5448%49%
55 and older36%31%
+59%

Jobs based in Philmont, 2013 → 2023: 290 → 461. Big swings can come from how a large employer reports its locations, not only from real openings or closings.

Primary jobs covered by unemployment insurance (not the self-employed). Pay is monthly earnings. LEHD 2023.

Here is what they are, next to the jobs Philmont’s own residents hold wherever they work.

How far

The distance from Philmont to work

10 mi25 mi50 mi80 miHudson: 16% · 7.1 miClaverack: 12% · 3 miNew York City: 11% · 110.6 miAlbany: 5% · 29.8 miGhent: 5% · 4.6 miGreenport: 3% · 7.6 miTaghkanic: 2% · 8.1 miKinderhook: 2% · 11.3 miHillsdale: 1% · 6.6 miLivingston: 1% · 10.8 miHudson 16%Claverack 12%New York City 11%Albany 5%Ghent 5%Philmont
PhilmontTop destinations (size = commuters)
41%Under 10 mi201 residents
14%10–24 mi66 residents
16%25–50 mi79 residents
29%Over 50 mi142 residents

About 29% show a job over 50 miles away. Some of that is real, and some is employers that report every worker at a head office, so a few long commutes are on paper only.

Straight-line distance from each worker’s home block to their main job’s block. LEHD 2023.

Every working resident’s trip, home to work, as the crow flies. Roads add to it, so real drives run longer.

Getting around · Walkability grade

Most of Philmont commutes by car

On EPA’s walkability index and the share of commuters who walk, bike or take transit, Philmont is more walkable than 20% of U.S. towns. The street layout scores higher than the way people actually get to work: hardly any commuters walk, bike or take transit, below the 32.9% across New York.

EPA walkability index 6.7 of 20 · typical NY town 6.3 · U.S. 6.9Higher than 46% of U.S. towns
Walk, bike or transit 0.0% of commuters · NY 32.9% · U.S. 7.1%Higher than 7% of U.S. towns
C−C−

A firm grade. EPA’s index has no published margin of error; the commuting share comes from a Census survey of 598 workers.

How TownRatings grades walkability →

Transit service: no data. EPA’s transit file has no stops for most of this county (its agencies had not published schedules in the format EPA used in 2020). That is missing data, not a finding that there is no bus or train.

Households without a car (shown, not graded). 4.1% of Philmont households have no vehicle (New York 29.2%, U.S. 8.4%). 0% of Philmont’s commuters take a bus or train.

Towns its size

5,330th of 6,308: where Philmont ranks among U.S. towns of 1,000 to 2,000

#TownPeopleHousehold incomePovertyUnemploymentWork in townGrade
1Somerset MD1,151$250K1.9%2.3%<1%A+
2Chevy Chase Village MD1,978$250K1.2%2.6%3%A+
3Bellerose NY1,169$232K1.6%6.1%1%A+
4Baxter Estates NY1,014$154K1.0%3.1%1%A+
5Saddle Rock NY1,008$176K0.8%2.3%<1%A+
…
5,328Sebewaing MI1,678$48K13.1%6.4%7%D
5,329Sherburn MN1,040$60K22.7%9.1%9%D
5,330Philmont NY1,466$57K21.6%7.1%2%D
5,331Girardville PA1,325$42K20.8%5.1%1%D
5,332Beaver Creek Township MI1,628$61K17.7%6.4%8%D
…
6,308Oglala SD1,071$21K68.8%26.5%0%D−

Census ACS 2020–24 (income, poverty, unemployment), Census LEHD (work in town), TownRatings Jobs & income grades. Each town links to its Work & commute page.

Ranked on the Jobs & income grade: the towns either side of Philmont, the top three, the last and three more from New York.

How to read these numbers

What this data can and can’t tell you

  • Two sources, two years. Trips, distances and jobs based here: Census LEHD 2023, primary jobs, where the employer reports them. Income, poverty, unemployment, commute time and how people travel: Census ACS 2020–24 averages.
  • Straight lines, older transit. Miles are as the crow flies. EPA’s walkability and transit files use 2017–20 inputs.

How these figures and grades are made →

Jobs and commuting in Philmont: questions

What is the median household income in Philmont?

$56,563 (±$11,079) (Census ACS 2020–24), against $85,974 across New York and $80,734 nationally.

What is the poverty rate in Philmont?

21.6%, against 14.0% across New York and 12.5% nationally (Census ACS 2020–24).

How long is the commute from Philmont?

21 minutes each way on average, against 33 across New York and 26 nationally. 7% of workers work from home.

Where do people who live in Philmont work?

2% work in town. The top destinations elsewhere are Hudson (16%, 7 mi), Claverack (12%, 3 mi), New York City (11%, 111 mi) (Census LEHD 2023).

Is Philmont walkable?

Philmont is more walkable than 20% of U.S. towns (Walkability C−): an EPA walkability index of 6.7 out of 20, and 0% of commuters walk, bike or take transit.

Can you get around Philmont without a car?

0% of commuters take transit and 4% of households have no car. EPA has no transit data for this county.

Commuter talk

Getting to work from Philmont, from the people who make the trip.

Town Square →
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Beyond the commute

More of Philmont

Philmont home →

Flows, distances and jobs: U.S. Census Bureau, LEHD Origin-Destination Employment Statistics (LODES 8), 2023, primary jobs. Commute time, working from home and working out of state: U.S. Census Bureau, American Community Survey 5-year estimates. Distances are straight lines between home and work; real drives run longer. Walkability index, job access and transit service: U.S. EPA Smart Location Database. The two grades are our own summaries of these figures, not official ratings.